California law to eventually ban gas-powered lawn equipment
ADAM BEAM Sat, October 9, 2021, 5:52 PM·2 min readIn this article:
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California will soon ban the sale of new gas-powered leaf blowers and lawn mowers, a move aimed at curbing emissions from a category of small engines on pace to produce more pollution each year than passenger vehicles.
Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a new law on Saturday that orders state regulators to ban the sale of new gas-powered equipment using small off-road engines, a broad category that includes generators, lawn equipment and pressure washers.
The California Air Resources Board has already started working on a rule to do this, a lengthy process scheduled to conclude early next year. But the law Newsom signed on Saturday removes any doubt, ordering the agency to apply the new rule by Jan. 1, 2024, or as soon as regulators determine is “feasible,” whichever date is later.
Speaking only for myself but I’m sure there are millions of people in the same boat, it’s not like we have a ton of money laying around that would enable us to run down and buy a garage full of new power equipment to have ready to go if we needed something.
Gas powered generators for example, can get real spendy, real quick.
Pressure washers, even a damn lawnmower can run into the hundreds of dollars if you want to buy new anymore.
If they pass this law then they are effectively shutting off a huge market of labor and possibly even life saving equipment.
My plan of attack to counter that shit would first be to say thanks for the warning Chumps, then I would start scouring Craigslist like Hunter Biden picking Parmesan Cheese off the carpet to stuff up his nose.
Either gently used or just for parts, I would literally build a fucking shed just to house the parts to keep what I had going.
If they are going to ban the sale of new machines then you can damn well bet that they are going to try and ban the selling of replacement parts to fix the ones already out there just as soon as they can.
We are talking a Billion dollar a year industry they are going to try and kill because Glowbull Worming or some bullshit like that.
It won’t be long after they pull this shit that a complete, used Briggs and Stratton gas engine will be going for a thousand dollars in the Underground Economy.
Crap like carburetor kits that even right now can be expensive, will become Unobtanium.
God forbid you have a piece of equipment with some Factory Captured part that can’t be found new anywhere, for any price.
There are a lot of one off parts for most of these pieces of equipment.
I would take this as a good time to go through what I already have, stock some spares and start scouring the local area for any machines that have ever been on my Wish List.
If you stop and think about it, what they are proposing is to relegate everyone back to 1850 technology wise, unless there is a battery powered version of a labor saver on the market.
For some reason I don’t recall ever seeing a portable battery powered emergency generator being advertised in recent memory.
Solar Powered shit may be OK for people that live where the sun actually shines but from where I’m sitting, it has been clouded over and raining for the last 3 days.
What they aren’t telling you is that all of these batteries that power all this new crap are considered Toxic Waste.
That will be their next emergency to deal with.
Maybe a nice little steam powered lawnmower would be the ticket.
I’m sure there are tons of people around who know how to operate and maintain that kind of shit.
Right?
Of course you do realize that this is only going to be decreed for you little peons, right?
City, Municipal, County and State maintenance crews are going to be exempt, lest the entire highway system etc. revert back to nature completely.
Oh, and Golf Courses.
The Elite gotta have their putting greens dont’cha know?
And I wonder how many truck loads of batteries it would take for a battery powered chainsaw to go through to cut down and buck up one of these?
No, this is just to beat down on the Proles, pure and simple.
They have already gone after gas powered cars.
You have to know the Green Weinie Morons who are passing these laws are absolutely, 100% disconnected from the every day realities of exactly how Modern Society actually functions.
I have news for these Fucktards, there aren’t any Magic Fairy’s cutting all that grass and knocking down all the brush all over that gigantic state.
Gasoline powered portable labor saving machines were invented and propagated for some very damn good reasons and there are zero practical alternatives on the blackboards anywhere.
Just wait until their yards and lawns are overgrown and Juan tells them to go fuck themselves if they think he is going to be cutting that shit back with a scythe and lopping shears.
You know the environmentalists (mental being the operative part) and the EPA have completely lost the plot when they try to regulate lawnmowers to save the planet.
Time to close them down because they have reached a point where what they are targeting is so close to zero pollution as to make no difference.
Watch them make selling or importing two stroke oil illegal.
Straight 30 Wt. Oil.
That can be substituted for 2 stroke oil but it’s the recommended oil for literally almost all small engines.
It’s already hard to find in some places and even 10W-30 isn’t available at most Jiffy lube type places around here.
Straight non detergent 30 weight oil is used in tons of different kinds of equipment.
Even 5W-30 weight oil is getting rarer and that is what my truck uses, I am sure your truck is the same Phil?
That’s what it recommends
Is that what you use? Can you straight 30 weight instead?
I was trying to use the 10-30 but unless I want to lay out in the street and do it myself then I go with whatever they have at Jiffy lube. It’s turned into a fucking nightmare to do it yourself anymore and I can get it done for under thirty bucks.
I can see us in other, freer states lawnmower running like the old gangsters running booze, cigarettes, guns… Hey man, ya got a Toro or a Husqvarna? What? 500 bucks for a cheap, running Toro, man, that is robbery…
Sure gonna put a lot of Mexicans out of work, they will have to go on welfare and food stamps…
I believe you are spot on in your assessment. The cities don’t want to expand they want “infill”. Any new housing development has postage stamp yards.
I’m going to throw my 2 cents in here at the risk of starting an argument. Everyone is missing the point. It’s not that they don’t want you to have yard equipment, it’s that they don’t want you to have a yard. Same thing with electric cars. They don’t want you to have a car at all. The vision is that the few who are needed to service TPTB live in Soviet style concrete apartment towers and depend on the Government for transportation and everything else. The amazing thing is the number of everyday people that support this vision.
Your points make sense. I think part of the ‘Gasoline Bad’ movement is that that gasoline powered equipment and vehicles gives the owner independence from the grid. Government wants EVERYTHING to depend on them – its how they gain control over all our lives.
30 weight is thicker. Had 30w in a 1953 216 with a 6 volt system. It was winter and ambient temp was around 0F. got it started and warmed up drained the 30 out and replaced it with 10 and had a good winter.
10-30 just starts at 10 cold and works like 30 warm. 5-30 is just thinner cold.
Not sure how the chemistry works but that is what happens.
Knew a guy that had a car with a knock in it. He filled it with warm 90 weight gear grease and traded it in warm. Knock went away but he chuckled every time he thought about them trying to start it.
Sounds like a Phil twin.
Just last week the old guy across the street Chucky he was telling me about a brand new Chevy that he bought in 53 said it was he thought.
He moved from Vancouver to Montana and it was like 30 freaking below and he went out to get in his car and it wouldn’t even crank over.
He had to have it towed in and they drained the oil, out put a lighter oil in it and he never had any more trouble after that.
It was also telling me that back then the place that he worked they had Rose and Rose of plugins out in the parking lot the people would fight over so that they can plug in their block heaters.
One day the circuit breaker tripped and they all went out and found their cars frozen and wouldn’t start.
There’s also the cautionary tale out of Fairbanks that you can plug in your block heater and start just fine, but if it’s worse than -50′ outside you may tear your rear end out because the differential is froze solid.
When I lived up in the Northern reaches of South Dakota it could get down into the -40s, -50s and some times -60 degrees. It was suggested to me to buy a magnetic oil pan heater to place on my differential to keep it warm during those cold times as my truck sat outside. It was a blessing, before doing that you could hear the diff groaning and sluggish. Another suggestion was to use synthetic diff grease in it and that helped because it didn’t freeze until something like -180 degrees.
Maybe we should just get goats, cattle and horses to keep the lawn trimmed and tidy.
We have to go to Reno to buy a decent gas can and ammunition. Soon it will be bacon because of the swine caging requirements. What the hell, I’ll just go to Reno for my next saw.
Relax.
They’ll do about as well banning them as they have with guns.
Want to make a fortune?
Invest in businesses selling gas-powered equipment in Yuma AZ, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Reno, and anywhere in OR north of the CA border, along with lube and parts. They’re going to get rich from this law.
TPTB aren’t going door-to-door here, and they aren’t cavity-searching every vehicle coming into the state (nor ever could do either).
This is going to bite lazy bubbas, but the industrious ones will do just fine.
Go to Vegas for some vacay, come back with a new toy. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Problem solved.
And there’s no registration or chain of custody on any of them, so Craigslist will have gently used ones for sale in perpetuity.
[Hint: Califrutopia has been “banning” “assault weapons” here since 1989. How has that worked out in reality? To date, there are now 20 times more of them in-state now than there were in 1989. And now, every Swinging Richard knows how to Lego Gun plug-and-play the ones they’ve got into/out of compliance, and has the parts and tools to go both ways. But there’s no background check or waiting period on gas-powered equipment. Chances this works to do anything but shift retail of those items to the state’s borders: 0%. This idiot law is simply a boon to the garden departments of Wallymart, Target, and Home Depot in next-door states. As 3M people here with RVs with gas generators already figured out, in 0.2 seconds. CARB is legislating themselves into oblivion, and they’ll soon be totally irrelevant.]
Are the @$$holes in Sacramento total morons? 100% yes.
Are they even 5% competent? 100% no.
And they’re getting worse at it, not better.
This law is just a dipstick test for their insanity, and it’s approaching peak irrelevance.
Most of the state farts in their general direction.
I proudly claim a long line of rebel ancestors. My grandmother once brought a bushel of apples across the state lines when there was an ag inspection station forbidding them. She put a layer of dirty diapers on top of the apples as said if they wanted to find them, they were welcome to confiscate them.
No water, no grass.
This is just a manifestation of empty headed weenies that have done nothing in their life making everyone else’s life miserable.
You chainsaw point is great. I have two 16″ electric chainsaws that mostly do what I need done. That said, I tried cutting some ash logs, maybe 10″ across, and they struggled like a mf’er.
There are a few people here with electric lawnmowers. The corded ones have been around forever. I can’t imagine using any of that with my lawn. And my power washer outclasses every electric one I’ve used.
I have seen a commercial company around here with all electric lawn service. The big lawnmower they have looks like it has 1/2 ton of batteries in it. They must have gone under. Then again, I’ve only ever seen them on one lawn. Hard to compete with Pedro from Oaxaca with his well worn gas gear.
That said, I’d may money to see what happens when some weenie with a keyboard tries to shut those guys down.
They are about to stumble on Newton’s law. “Whenever one object exerts a force on another object, the second object exerts an equal and opposite on the first.”
Change “Force” to “Action” here.
In 20 or 30 years when you all are dead who will know how to use or fix small engines, or even care? My Dewalt battery chainsaw has replaced the baby Stihl for most jobs.
The big Stihl only comes out to take down larger trees or all day cutting. The in-laws have a battery powered mower that does a good job with virtually no maintenance. It’s just a matter of time before batteries get good enough to power bigger saws and larger equipment.
Golf courses have been around since the15th Century, a lot longer than gas-powered equipment, and they are being made less maintenance-intensive, so I don’t see my golfing enjoyment going away anytime soon.
Anybody who thinks this is a good idea can mow is own goddamn yard – with a 14″ no-motor reel jobby. By the time they get through, they can start all over again.
Don’t forget they already took out charcoal grills, real fireplaces, and wood burning stoves and furnaces.
There were and are workarounds, but all that got accepted…
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Millions of unemployed illegals will be created by this.