Yup, I voted early and used a paper ballot printed out as my delivered vote. Electronic votes can be too easily “LOST”, especially after the results have been viewed.
I just got back from voting. There was one person ahead of me in the checklist line for my name letter. Arrived at 7:25. Out the door at 7:33.
The gym was full. Other lines had 50 people waiting for the checklist. There was probably 300 people in lines waiting to vote.
We have same day registration in my state. I’d be willing to bet there were over 200 people waiting to register.
I looked at faces as I walked by them on the way out. All young. Mid twenties to mid thirties. None foreign looking. I looked at license plates on the way in and the way out. Didn’t see any out of state plates and no charter type buses in the parking lot.
Paper yes. Hand count no (except for audit samples). Do you have any idea how long it would take to hand count 150 million paper ballots? No results for weeks or months.
Taiwan, a country of 3.2 million people, hand counts their votes and release the results the end of the day of voting.
Look it up.
Saying that this country cannot tally votes by hand is communist propaganda. Do the numbers: half the country voting is 170 million people (more than will likely vote, but for the sake of argument). How many votes could you count yourself from say, 8 am to 8 pm if you were tasked with that job?
I think I’d probably be able to count at least 60 an hour. So that means even a retard like me could count 720 ballots today.
170 million divided by 720 is 236,000.
So, you’re telling me that 0.0007% of the entire population of 340 million people couldn’t or wouldn’t volunteer to count ballots?
Stop believing the propaganda!
Quote:
“VOTING:
Votes are cast in person by putting a mark against the preferred candidate on a slip of paper at designated voting stations, often schools. There is no absentee, early, proxy or electronic voting. Ballots are counted by hand and each vote is displayed for public scrutiny before being counted.”
Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/factbox-how-does-taiwan-election-work-2024-01-11/
Taiwan: 23 million.
If only reality were that simple. Hand counting can be done but it will be more costly and time consuming.
Assume 1 person, nonstop for 12 hours could actually count 720 ballots. Who will verify? Typically you want two people counting each batch independently and a third to reconcile if totals aren’t equal.
How will you record your tabulations? My ballot was 4 pages with races, bond issues and amendments. Who will aggregate the numbers? Who will check on the aggregators? Consider all the logistics in terms of sorting and organizing ballots both before and after counting.
Also, when converting to % move your decimal point two places.
Beware of simplistic solutions to complex problems!
Our machines were broken when Cruz/Trump primary vote was scheduled. So we had 12/14 of us divided into AB, CD and on it went. We always have 2 rep’s and 2 dem’s at each poling place and everyone registered is looked up. You are in this precinct and registered then you are in the book. People kept saying ‘but I always vote rep’s’ when told they were not registered rep’s. Closed the door at 6:00pm. And we counted each and every paper ballot. Called it out, next verified and third agreed. So it can be done. But NOT by only 1 party in the room counting.
Exactly! When the League of Women Voters ran the polling places in Kansas, you didn’t have to worry about any shenanigans. Those old blue-haired women were no nonsense, and nobody gave them any grief.
By the way, the computer generated list of registered voters didn’t always have everybody on there. It happened to me; fortunately, I carried my voter registration card in my wallet and pulled it out to show them, thinking I might be in the wrong polling place. Nope, I was in the right place. They hand wrote me onto the list, and I wasn’t the only person they had to add to the list. There was some disapproving clucking going on about the Election Commissioner’s office dropping the ball.
Show legal ID with legal residence cited and proof of citizenship
Paper ballot
Optical reader that does NOTHING except tally black blips to the appropriate columns, zero connection to the internet. Prints the totals on a piece of paper at each precinct when polls close, then the head of the location FAXES in the tally with a read-back on the spot to the vote count desk.
Live camera on the fax machine at all times, each report faxed must have a serial number traceable back to each local tally machine used..
Oh, dip each voter’s middle finger in purple indelible dye.
Problems (and most Dems – but I repeat myself) all go away
Yup, I voted early and used a paper ballot printed out as my delivered vote. Electronic votes can be too easily “LOST”, especially after the results have been viewed.
I just got back from voting. There was one person ahead of me in the checklist line for my name letter. Arrived at 7:25. Out the door at 7:33.
The gym was full. Other lines had 50 people waiting for the checklist. There was probably 300 people in lines waiting to vote.
We have same day registration in my state. I’d be willing to bet there were over 200 people waiting to register.
I looked at faces as I walked by them on the way out. All young. Mid twenties to mid thirties. None foreign looking. I looked at license plates on the way in and the way out. Didn’t see any out of state plates and no charter type buses in the parking lot.
Paper yes. Hand count no (except for audit samples). Do you have any idea how long it would take to hand count 150 million paper ballots? No results for weeks or months.
Taiwan, a country of 3.2 million people, hand counts their votes and release the results the end of the day of voting.
Look it up.
Saying that this country cannot tally votes by hand is communist propaganda. Do the numbers: half the country voting is 170 million people (more than will likely vote, but for the sake of argument). How many votes could you count yourself from say, 8 am to 8 pm if you were tasked with that job?
I think I’d probably be able to count at least 60 an hour. So that means even a retard like me could count 720 ballots today.
170 million divided by 720 is 236,000.
So, you’re telling me that 0.0007% of the entire population of 340 million people couldn’t or wouldn’t volunteer to count ballots?
Stop believing the propaganda!
Quote:
“VOTING:
Votes are cast in person by putting a mark against the preferred candidate on a slip of paper at designated voting stations, often schools. There is no absentee, early, proxy or electronic voting. Ballots are counted by hand and each vote is displayed for public scrutiny before being counted.”
Source:
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/factbox-how-does-taiwan-election-work-2024-01-11/
Taiwan: 23 million.
If only reality were that simple. Hand counting can be done but it will be more costly and time consuming.
Assume 1 person, nonstop for 12 hours could actually count 720 ballots. Who will verify? Typically you want two people counting each batch independently and a third to reconcile if totals aren’t equal.
How will you record your tabulations? My ballot was 4 pages with races, bond issues and amendments. Who will aggregate the numbers? Who will check on the aggregators? Consider all the logistics in terms of sorting and organizing ballots both before and after counting.
Read about the real life problems that makes hand counting more expensive and time consuming.
https://time.com/7071959/election-2024-hand-count-ballots/
Also, when converting to % move your decimal point two places.
Beware of simplistic solutions to complex problems!
Our machines were broken when Cruz/Trump primary vote was scheduled. So we had 12/14 of us divided into AB, CD and on it went. We always have 2 rep’s and 2 dem’s at each poling place and everyone registered is looked up. You are in this precinct and registered then you are in the book. People kept saying ‘but I always vote rep’s’ when told they were not registered rep’s. Closed the door at 6:00pm. And we counted each and every paper ballot. Called it out, next verified and third agreed. So it can be done. But NOT by only 1 party in the room counting.
Exactly! When the League of Women Voters ran the polling places in Kansas, you didn’t have to worry about any shenanigans. Those old blue-haired women were no nonsense, and nobody gave them any grief.
By the way, the computer generated list of registered voters didn’t always have everybody on there. It happened to me; fortunately, I carried my voter registration card in my wallet and pulled it out to show them, thinking I might be in the wrong polling place. Nope, I was in the right place. They hand wrote me onto the list, and I wasn’t the only person they had to add to the list. There was some disapproving clucking going on about the Election Commissioner’s office dropping the ball.
Show legal ID with legal residence cited and proof of citizenship
Paper ballot
Optical reader that does NOTHING except tally black blips to the appropriate columns, zero connection to the internet. Prints the totals on a piece of paper at each precinct when polls close, then the head of the location FAXES in the tally with a read-back on the spot to the vote count desk.
Live camera on the fax machine at all times, each report faxed must have a serial number traceable back to each local tally machine used..
Oh, dip each voter’s middle finger in purple indelible dye.
Problems (and most Dems – but I repeat myself) all go away
With chads?