Two extremely compelling arguments TTown.
For more than you ever wanted to know about Covid-19 (more properly called the Wuhan Coronavirus), read the Spartacus letter currently going viral on the interwebs. It’s been memory holed already from the original site, but fortunately enough people have reposted it that it’s beyond supression and censorship.
Whoever wrote the Spartacus letter really knows of which they speak. If the molecular biology seems overwhelming, just skim past it. There’s plenty of plain English around and beyond the pathophysiology described. I could barely follow it, and I’ve studied the subjects formally. The letter is long, 14 pages, with 17 pages of citations, references, and footnotes to back up everything stated.
Our interwebs are already starting to flicker in ominous ways, and could go dark at any time. But as long as we’re able to, we’ll keep passing along what TEPTB (E for evil) cannot stand: Truth.
I decided at the very beginning that I wouldn’t get a covid shot. My reasoning is that they have always said that there is no cure for the common cold. Well, the common cold is a corona virus like covid. So, how could anyone expect them to make a vaccine, in a very short period of time, that works for covid when the common cold has been around forever, and there isn’t a vaccine for it.
FWIW, I also don’t get the annual flu shot, because it has such a lousy track record at being effective against the different variations of the seasonal flu. I see no reason to get a shot that might harm me when the effectiveness of the shot is abysmal.
T Town, colds are caused not only by corona type viruses but also by rhinoviruses. There are actually as much as 200 variety of viruses that cause cold like symptoms. Rhinoviruses cause up to 35 to 40% of all colds.
I’m not getting the vax and don’t really give a shit about it. Where the hell is the Viagra hi-speed ointment?
Taken from Vox Popoli site, without permission, so this might be subject to removel.
“The Slow Kill Process
A nurse explains how the kill-shots are designed to gradually destroy the human immune system. A summary of her video:
1st shot: Has a fair amount of saline. Reduces ability to produce white blood cells by 50 percent.
2nd shot: Less saline. Removes additional 25 percent white blood cell production capability. System is reduced to 25 percent.
1st booster: No saline. Induces chronic inflammation, which targets existing areas of system vulnerability. This is why cancer survivors are dying of cancer and people with lung issues are dying of pneumonia.
2nd booster: Shuts off the ability to make white blood cells. The system is entirely vulnerable and the individual becomes reliant upon additional boosters to provide a substitute immune system.
The strokes and heart attacks appear to be a bonus, although they could be related to the early stages of the weakened immune system.”
Sorry, but that sounds like bullshit. Who is this nurse person?
If getting the second booster “shuts off the ability to make white blood cells” then 80% of Israel is neutropenic and would have already died of infections from paper cuts, cat scratches, and other minor injuries.
People don’t get heart attacks and strokes from a “weakened immune system”. (Okay, you can torture logic and causality to argue how this could be true using the atherosclerosis/chronic inflammation argument, but broadly speaking, that’s bullshit.) Also, it doesn’t explain why people get blood clots and heart attacks and strokes within hours or days of the Jab.
The Jab makes people thrombophilic (more likely to form blood clots). It also seems to fuck up endothelial function (endothelium is the lining of arteries; it secretes nitric oxide which makes the arteries dilate/expand as needed). So people are more likely to form clots AND their arteries fail to dilate under normal stimuli. This goes a long way toward explaining the excess amount of heart attacks and strokes after getting the Jab.
There isn’t need for ridiculous theories about how the Jab works. What the pharma companies that make the JABs have described is bad enough. It’s functionally giving yourself an autoimmune disease.
I know it sounded close to bullshit… I was a nurse, not a doc and I even knew it was bravo sierra. I haven’t done any nurse type stuff for 22 years after almost 25 years slinging bed pans. I got it at Vox Popoli, Vox Day. Phil has commented and had a small flame war with him if I remember correctly. I wanted to put it out there and see if you, or Greg and some of the others medically trained would comment. I brought it in for shits and giggles…
V.P. gets things right sometimes, in broad strokes, but once you get to details, he’s on a par with Alex Jones and George Noury for credibility. He really should stick to comic books.
And as I told someone else who apparently skipped med school, but slept at a Holiday Inn Express once, who was posting similarly pure hogwash related to the Vaxx on another website, their erroneous miasma of sewage presented as substance reminded me of Reagan’s comments about Democrats:
“The problem isn’t what they know, it’s what they know that just isn’t so!“
if it really “saved ” lives it would cost you a small fortune to get.
and they giving this shit out free and giving away other shit if you got it ?
no fucking way could this be a legit “vaccine” for free/
and now they forcing everyone to get one or more jabs of this shit ?
no thanks, never really liked kool aid anyway, even the “bug juice” they
served up in the army back in the day.
btw, hospitals charge over 10 bucks for asprin but this shit is free ?
Dave in pa., ‘btw, hospitals charge over 10 bucks for asprin but this shit is free ?” When I was working at the hospital as a house orderly on the grave yard shift while I was in nursing school, one of my jobs was to retrieve stock or meds that were in Central Receiving. I glanced down at two pallets of aspirin and Tylenol. the bill of lading had for balance: No Charge… when I saw the receiving clerk that morning I asked him about that and he said hospital all get “free” aspirin and Tylenol and Ibuprofen for buying all their other medications… then we get charged upto ten bucks, tell me it isn’t a fucking money making scam that medicine has become?
The ridiculous markups are to pay for all the assholes who use the ER as their primary care, and the frequent flyer assholes who come in every other night half dead from an OD, and the poor unfortunate honor students who keep getting stabbed and shot for no reason at all when they was jus minding they own business knitting blankets for orphans. Needless to say, the assholes and the honor students never pay bills, and Medicaid only pays so much.
So people with insurance get outrageous bills to subsidize the free riders. Also, you notice that what is billed and what is reimbursed are totally different, right? Like we charge, say, $1500 to do an echocardiogram (“technical fee” — this goes to hospital for the salary of the tech, the cost of the scanner, the electricity, the sheets on the scanning table, the room, etc), and $300 (“professional fee” to the doctor) for some asshole like me to read the damn thing. But the hospital gets $250 for the echo from the insurance company, and as the physician I get maybe $50 from the insurance company. The patient MIGHT end up coughing up another $100 to the hospital and $10 to the doc, but we NEVER get what is billed. It’s a numbers game because the big insurers (and Medicare/Medicaid) “negotiate” huge discounts by saying “we’re going to pay 20% of the bill, take it or fuck off.”
And you know why ER visits are so expensive: if you don’t CT some asshole for his vague abdominal pain that has bothered him for 30 years and hasn’t changed at all, then somehow you get sued. So of course he gets the $2000 CT scan he totally doesn’t need.
Don’t I know that… I remember the game. Like I posted it is a big medical scam, which indecently involves the insurance companies, both private and public. . The hospitals actually encourage it. Weasels and con-men discovered big profits in healing, that includes doctors, administrators and executives at insurance
I figured *you* knew that.
But the upcharge/partial insurance payment + your co-pay still being waay less than the billed amount is weird as hell (and worrying) the first time a patient encounters it. The worst thing is that actual poor working people without insurance are the ones who get hit hardest, and end up pursued for the whole massively inflated bill. The system is rotten.
I once asked the billing people to waive the physician’s portion of the bill for a poor patient. I was told that was illegal because if the hospital did that then the bill they submitted to Medicaid would somehow become a fradulent charge. I don’t know if that’s true, but they basically told me to fuck off out of their business. There’s been a few times when I’ve paid the co-pay for a patient (and once I gave cash to a post kidney-transplant woman for her to see her nephrologist because she couldn’t afford the co-pay). It’s a bullshit system when you end up taking an actual $20 bill (co-pay was at the time) out of your own pocket and hand it to the front desk at your own fucking clinic to pay for the privilege of talking to, examining and treating a patient.
FTR, Medicaid and Medicare pay 2¢ on the dollar max.
IOW, a bill from the hospital for $1000 gets reimbursed by Uncle at $20.
This is why you find MD after MD stating on their sites and in their offices, “Not accepting Medicare patients”.
Imagine telling McDonald’s they had to sell a Big Mac for 20¢:
a) how long would they stay in business?
b) what would a Big Mac look like 5 minutes later, in both size and quality?
Medicine isn’t the scam.
Medicare is.
Where I live, they’ll give you 100 bucks and permission to keep your job and use public services.
Not dying of the worst disease ever is apparently not enough. Oh and by the way, why are the most vaccinated regions seeing a spike in health problems associated with the virus?
I figured out the disease was a fear campaign but would be line to get a vaccine, unless it appeared that the vaccine was part of the moral panic more than a medical issue.
I can’t say I understand all the scientific issues, what with all the manipulation, but I know enough to see that the politician-doctors and the doctor-politicians are not primarily concerned with public health. The crisis must go on.
No thanks. I’m in the control group.
anyone who has done mopp / nbc training should know this shit is bullshit.
did mri back in the 1990’s in outpatient clinics ,standard charge was like 1100
bucks or so but if you paid cash it dropped to 600.
the boss like how I set up one clinic so when he open more he had me go there
for like 2 weeks or so to get the new site up and running. he open up one
in up state new york and all the people i scanned for those 2 weeks where coming
down from canada . I think there was like a 1 year wait to get a ct scan they said.
hup or hospital of the university of pa had like 5 plus floor of medical billers
and that was in 1991. god only knows what they have now the reason why you do not see small doc shops anymore ? insurance companies do not pay them.
little side thing from the bitch care crap she tried to pull back in the 1990’s
how else does one explain how ceo’s get millions and and you get stuck with the rest of the bill ? I know more than one doc who closed up shop while being owned millions they never see.
When the guy who invented the mRNA technology said it wasn’t safe for use in humans because there were no long term studies that ended well, that was good enough for me. I don’t understand the mechanics/biology of mRNA on a cellular level. However, it seems to me that anything that’s going to make fundamental changes to how the immune system works, with little to no efficacy and/or long term studies on deleterious effects, is not something that should be being administered to the general population and certainly not to me.
Questions I asked my primary care about the vaccine:
What is the medical treatment for those that test positive for Covid?
How does the vaccine work?
Is the spike protein safe?
Does the vaccine prevent infection, spread, hospitalization, or death from Covid?
What is antibody dependent enhancement and is it a concern for the Covid vaccines?
What are the potential adverse reactions to the Covid vaccines?
I ask because for the last two months I have been experiencing: paresthesia, upper body spasms and now inflammation in my upper back/head, upper body weakness, and muscle spasms in my right thigh. Could the Covid vaccine cause an inflammatory response that makes these symptoms worse?
I ask because I have seen several adverse Covid vaccine reactions that have had debilitating effects among people that are family, friends, co-workers, and customers.
I am asking for a medical exemption for the Covid-19 vaccine due to my health and concerns. I understand that I assume the risk associated with this decision.
Doctors reply:
I am happy to discuss all of these questions during a visit. The information is readily available on CDC.gov to answer many of these questions. But ultimately, I do not provide a medical exemption unless someone has received a 1st dose and had a severe allergic reaction (which has not occurred in any of my patients to my knowledge).
Best regards,
Dr.
From what I have gathered, there is quite a bit of pressure on physicians to write exemptions, with hospitals even investigating/reprimanding physicians that do.
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You don’t want a medical exemption, because they can always find another doctor to countermand the one that wrote you one.
Unless they can pony up a bigger God than you have (pics or it didn’t happen), a religious exemption is bombproof.
Even religious exemptions are getting denied. Some religious institutions/corporations are becoming about as authoritarian on the subject of faith as Dr. Fauci is on science, health, and reason.
It’s time to get debt free and check out of this current society so to speak……
Needless to say, I am still not getting the shot and I am in search of a new doctor…..
Two extremely compelling arguments TTown.
For more than you ever wanted to know about Covid-19 (more properly called the Wuhan Coronavirus), read the Spartacus letter currently going viral on the interwebs. It’s been memory holed already from the original site, but fortunately enough people have reposted it that it’s beyond supression and censorship.
Whoever wrote the Spartacus letter really knows of which they speak. If the molecular biology seems overwhelming, just skim past it. There’s plenty of plain English around and beyond the pathophysiology described. I could barely follow it, and I’ve studied the subjects formally. The letter is long, 14 pages, with 17 pages of citations, references, and footnotes to back up everything stated.
Our interwebs are already starting to flicker in ominous ways, and could go dark at any time. But as long as we’re able to, we’ll keep passing along what TEPTB (E for evil) cannot stand: Truth.
I decided at the very beginning that I wouldn’t get a covid shot. My reasoning is that they have always said that there is no cure for the common cold. Well, the common cold is a corona virus like covid. So, how could anyone expect them to make a vaccine, in a very short period of time, that works for covid when the common cold has been around forever, and there isn’t a vaccine for it.
FWIW, I also don’t get the annual flu shot, because it has such a lousy track record at being effective against the different variations of the seasonal flu. I see no reason to get a shot that might harm me when the effectiveness of the shot is abysmal.
T Town, colds are caused not only by corona type viruses but also by rhinoviruses. There are actually as much as 200 variety of viruses that cause cold like symptoms. Rhinoviruses cause up to 35 to 40% of all colds.
I’m not getting the vax and don’t really give a shit about it. Where the hell is the Viagra hi-speed ointment?
Taken from Vox Popoli site, without permission, so this might be subject to removel.
“The Slow Kill Process
A nurse explains how the kill-shots are designed to gradually destroy the human immune system. A summary of her video:
1st shot: Has a fair amount of saline. Reduces ability to produce white blood cells by 50 percent.
2nd shot: Less saline. Removes additional 25 percent white blood cell production capability. System is reduced to 25 percent.
1st booster: No saline. Induces chronic inflammation, which targets existing areas of system vulnerability. This is why cancer survivors are dying of cancer and people with lung issues are dying of pneumonia.
2nd booster: Shuts off the ability to make white blood cells. The system is entirely vulnerable and the individual becomes reliant upon additional boosters to provide a substitute immune system.
The strokes and heart attacks appear to be a bonus, although they could be related to the early stages of the weakened immune system.”
Sorry, but that sounds like bullshit. Who is this nurse person?
If getting the second booster “shuts off the ability to make white blood cells” then 80% of Israel is neutropenic and would have already died of infections from paper cuts, cat scratches, and other minor injuries.
People don’t get heart attacks and strokes from a “weakened immune system”. (Okay, you can torture logic and causality to argue how this could be true using the atherosclerosis/chronic inflammation argument, but broadly speaking, that’s bullshit.) Also, it doesn’t explain why people get blood clots and heart attacks and strokes within hours or days of the Jab.
The Jab makes people thrombophilic (more likely to form blood clots). It also seems to fuck up endothelial function (endothelium is the lining of arteries; it secretes nitric oxide which makes the arteries dilate/expand as needed). So people are more likely to form clots AND their arteries fail to dilate under normal stimuli. This goes a long way toward explaining the excess amount of heart attacks and strokes after getting the Jab.
There isn’t need for ridiculous theories about how the Jab works. What the pharma companies that make the JABs have described is bad enough. It’s functionally giving yourself an autoimmune disease.
I know it sounded close to bullshit… I was a nurse, not a doc and I even knew it was bravo sierra. I haven’t done any nurse type stuff for 22 years after almost 25 years slinging bed pans. I got it at Vox Popoli, Vox Day. Phil has commented and had a small flame war with him if I remember correctly. I wanted to put it out there and see if you, or Greg and some of the others medically trained would comment. I brought it in for shits and giggles…
V.P. gets things right sometimes, in broad strokes, but once you get to details, he’s on a par with Alex Jones and George Noury for credibility. He really should stick to comic books.
And as I told someone else who apparently skipped med school, but slept at a Holiday Inn Express once, who was posting similarly pure hogwash related to the Vaxx on another website, their erroneous miasma of sewage presented as substance reminded me of Reagan’s comments about Democrats:
“The problem isn’t what they know, it’s what they know that just isn’t so!“
if it really “saved ” lives it would cost you a small fortune to get.
and they giving this shit out free and giving away other shit if you got it ?
no fucking way could this be a legit “vaccine” for free/
and now they forcing everyone to get one or more jabs of this shit ?
no thanks, never really liked kool aid anyway, even the “bug juice” they
served up in the army back in the day.
btw, hospitals charge over 10 bucks for asprin but this shit is free ?
Dave in pa., ‘btw, hospitals charge over 10 bucks for asprin but this shit is free ?” When I was working at the hospital as a house orderly on the grave yard shift while I was in nursing school, one of my jobs was to retrieve stock or meds that were in Central Receiving. I glanced down at two pallets of aspirin and Tylenol. the bill of lading had for balance: No Charge… when I saw the receiving clerk that morning I asked him about that and he said hospital all get “free” aspirin and Tylenol and Ibuprofen for buying all their other medications… then we get charged upto ten bucks, tell me it isn’t a fucking money making scam that medicine has become?
The ridiculous markups are to pay for all the assholes who use the ER as their primary care, and the frequent flyer assholes who come in every other night half dead from an OD, and the poor unfortunate honor students who keep getting stabbed and shot for no reason at all when they was jus minding they own business knitting blankets for orphans. Needless to say, the assholes and the honor students never pay bills, and Medicaid only pays so much.
So people with insurance get outrageous bills to subsidize the free riders. Also, you notice that what is billed and what is reimbursed are totally different, right? Like we charge, say, $1500 to do an echocardiogram (“technical fee” — this goes to hospital for the salary of the tech, the cost of the scanner, the electricity, the sheets on the scanning table, the room, etc), and $300 (“professional fee” to the doctor) for some asshole like me to read the damn thing. But the hospital gets $250 for the echo from the insurance company, and as the physician I get maybe $50 from the insurance company. The patient MIGHT end up coughing up another $100 to the hospital and $10 to the doc, but we NEVER get what is billed. It’s a numbers game because the big insurers (and Medicare/Medicaid) “negotiate” huge discounts by saying “we’re going to pay 20% of the bill, take it or fuck off.”
And you know why ER visits are so expensive: if you don’t CT some asshole for his vague abdominal pain that has bothered him for 30 years and hasn’t changed at all, then somehow you get sued. So of course he gets the $2000 CT scan he totally doesn’t need.
Don’t I know that… I remember the game. Like I posted it is a big medical scam, which indecently involves the insurance companies, both private and public. . The hospitals actually encourage it. Weasels and con-men discovered big profits in healing, that includes doctors, administrators and executives at insurance
I figured *you* knew that.
But the upcharge/partial insurance payment + your co-pay still being waay less than the billed amount is weird as hell (and worrying) the first time a patient encounters it. The worst thing is that actual poor working people without insurance are the ones who get hit hardest, and end up pursued for the whole massively inflated bill. The system is rotten.
I once asked the billing people to waive the physician’s portion of the bill for a poor patient. I was told that was illegal because if the hospital did that then the bill they submitted to Medicaid would somehow become a fradulent charge. I don’t know if that’s true, but they basically told me to fuck off out of their business. There’s been a few times when I’ve paid the co-pay for a patient (and once I gave cash to a post kidney-transplant woman for her to see her nephrologist because she couldn’t afford the co-pay). It’s a bullshit system when you end up taking an actual $20 bill (co-pay was at the time) out of your own pocket and hand it to the front desk at your own fucking clinic to pay for the privilege of talking to, examining and treating a patient.
FTR, Medicaid and Medicare pay 2¢ on the dollar max.
IOW, a bill from the hospital for $1000 gets reimbursed by Uncle at $20.
This is why you find MD after MD stating on their sites and in their offices, “Not accepting Medicare patients”.
Imagine telling McDonald’s they had to sell a Big Mac for 20¢:
a) how long would they stay in business?
b) what would a Big Mac look like 5 minutes later, in both size and quality?
Medicine isn’t the scam.
Medicare is.
Where I live, they’ll give you 100 bucks and permission to keep your job and use public services.
Not dying of the worst disease ever is apparently not enough. Oh and by the way, why are the most vaccinated regions seeing a spike in health problems associated with the virus?
I figured out the disease was a fear campaign but would be line to get a vaccine, unless it appeared that the vaccine was part of the moral panic more than a medical issue.
I can’t say I understand all the scientific issues, what with all the manipulation, but I know enough to see that the politician-doctors and the doctor-politicians are not primarily concerned with public health. The crisis must go on.
No thanks. I’m in the control group.
anyone who has done mopp / nbc training should know this shit is bullshit.
did mri back in the 1990’s in outpatient clinics ,standard charge was like 1100
bucks or so but if you paid cash it dropped to 600.
the boss like how I set up one clinic so when he open more he had me go there
for like 2 weeks or so to get the new site up and running. he open up one
in up state new york and all the people i scanned for those 2 weeks where coming
down from canada . I think there was like a 1 year wait to get a ct scan they said.
hup or hospital of the university of pa had like 5 plus floor of medical billers
and that was in 1991. god only knows what they have now the reason why you do not see small doc shops anymore ? insurance companies do not pay them.
little side thing from the bitch care crap she tried to pull back in the 1990’s
how else does one explain how ceo’s get millions and and you get stuck with the rest of the bill ? I know more than one doc who closed up shop while being owned millions they never see.
When the guy who invented the mRNA technology said it wasn’t safe for use in humans because there were no long term studies that ended well, that was good enough for me. I don’t understand the mechanics/biology of mRNA on a cellular level. However, it seems to me that anything that’s going to make fundamental changes to how the immune system works, with little to no efficacy and/or long term studies on deleterious effects, is not something that should be being administered to the general population and certainly not to me.
Questions I asked my primary care about the vaccine:
What is the medical treatment for those that test positive for Covid?
How does the vaccine work?
Is the spike protein safe?
Does the vaccine prevent infection, spread, hospitalization, or death from Covid?
What is antibody dependent enhancement and is it a concern for the Covid vaccines?
What are the potential adverse reactions to the Covid vaccines?
I ask because for the last two months I have been experiencing: paresthesia, upper body spasms and now inflammation in my upper back/head, upper body weakness, and muscle spasms in my right thigh. Could the Covid vaccine cause an inflammatory response that makes these symptoms worse?
I ask because I have seen several adverse Covid vaccine reactions that have had debilitating effects among people that are family, friends, co-workers, and customers.
I am asking for a medical exemption for the Covid-19 vaccine due to my health and concerns. I understand that I assume the risk associated with this decision.
Doctors reply:
I am happy to discuss all of these questions during a visit. The information is readily available on CDC.gov to answer many of these questions. But ultimately, I do not provide a medical exemption unless someone has received a 1st dose and had a severe allergic reaction (which has not occurred in any of my patients to my knowledge).
Best regards,
Dr.
From what I have gathered, there is quite a bit of pressure on physicians to write exemptions, with hospitals even investigating/reprimanding physicians that do.
IMG_1749.jpg
You don’t want a medical exemption, because they can always find another doctor to countermand the one that wrote you one.
Unless they can pony up a bigger God than you have (pics or it didn’t happen), a religious exemption is bombproof.
Even religious exemptions are getting denied. Some religious institutions/corporations are becoming about as authoritarian on the subject of faith as Dr. Fauci is on science, health, and reason.
It’s time to get debt free and check out of this current society so to speak……
Needless to say, I am still not getting the shot and I am in search of a new doctor…..