Maybe the scope on the shotgun is for hunting beaver?
Looks like it works, too.
For accuracy when shooting slugs, maybe? It’s what *I’d* use it for…
Center fire rifles are banned in my Wildlife Management Unit when hunting deer. My Mossberg has a rifled slug barrel with a cantilever picatinny rail. You can mount a scope but I have a red dot. If I do my job, cloverleafs at 100yds are possible.
#10 Funny thing, Colonel Klink, Sergeant Schultz and Major Hochstetter were all played by Jewish actors.
growing up, my buddy uncle had one of those rocket guns. pre 1970 I think?
anyway, he was his crazy uncle Charlie. neat guy to us kids. he always had some new gun he was playing with up state. every now and then he would bring up he
real “toys” like a WW2 tommy gun to play with. never knew what happen to him or his collection of “toys”. all I found out was he died while I was away in the army.
I remember the rocket gun starting slow like and then picking up speed as it left the
barrel/tube ? he really did have some neat guns though.
I think he was single too. he had a good dog, I do remember that.
and ammo? he had tons of it as I remember.
Yep, scope on a shottie. As I understand it, for turkey. But also if you’re shooting slugs. There are jurisdictions in the US, IIRC, where only shotgun is legal for deer. Quite odd, I think. Short range and buckshot.
Back east there were areas with shotgun only. I used an 870, scoped ,rifled barrel and easily dropped deer at 100 yds with slugs.
While rifled bores or rifled chokes are a viable method of getting real accuracy with slugs from shotguns, I’ve seen an 870 with a factory iron-sight smoothbore tube that rivalled the average Mini-14 for centre-to-centre groups at 100 metres, using a variety of slugs too.
Remington, Winchester and Federal Foster-style slugs were interchangeable so far as point-of-aim, Brenneke a few inches higher, but the S & B S-Ball Plastik (a superb plastic-jacketed steel slug) would print a foot high with it’s higher velocity and lighter weight. There’s never not an exit wound with the S-Ball Plastik.
The most effective 12 gauge factory slug I’ve used was the Treffer, made in the then GDR. Unfortunately you could only use it for the first shot if using a tube magazine repeater, as the blunt cone-shaped nose of the slug protruded from the mouth of the roll-crimped hull a fair degree, presumably intended for break-action shotguns. The slug had a plastic wad crimped to it’s base, giving a shuttlecock effect, quite accurate and would push a full-grown boar to the ground on impact, from which it would never move.
When checking the point of impact from my Winchester, I noted that a firm forward grip was useful, otherwise the Treffer would unlock the bolt, cycling the action to the rear and ejecting the empty case several feet away! I wonder if they’re still in business? A revised projectile shape for tube magazines (or using a sharp chisel to remove the cone point) would enable as many boars on the ground as the capacity of the magazine, after all it’s about culling as many feral pests as humanely possible.
Yes, but with a revised nose shape, it should be fine for tube magazines. They used to flatten wild boars, even quicker then other slugs.
First I did not notice the scope the first time around, In the Seventies 75-78 I used to have to take two of those cans of oil; to the field for the APC I drove 30 weight for the engine and 10 weight for the transmission. I agree with sending the military to the border. We need to put Use eminent domain on the border. Take the land and turn the whole rural border area into a military LIVEFIRE RANGE. In Vietnam they had a course called Recondo and to graduate the course the students had to plan and execute an actual mi8ssion. We should use the graduates of ALL the branches special forces graduate students the same way. Target the cartels, drug runners who cross the border with drugs. ALL trucks who enter the US from out side the country should be searched for drugs chemicals to make drugs (fentanyl) Destroy what we can find. confiscate the ships or trucks that are transporting the drug. Put all the available troops on the border. Those people who cross illegally should be classified as enemy combatants and shipped to the Aleutian for holding with minimal facilities food and we would not even need to guard it we can let the bears be the guards. Long rant .
wow. I have not hear or read anything about Recondo since the 101st. back at FT. Campbell the PNCO school was called Recondo
and they even gave you a patch afterwards. early to mid 1970’s
We will never know how much skill and knowledge has been lost to the sands of time.
To be able to do that kind of work! Thanks for that.
If you were attacked, you wouldn’t want to pick up the wrong pistol or, if you were at a party, picking up the wrong pistol might be embarrassing too!
Nice set boys.
Jacob McCandles carried two double barreled greeners
i REALLY appreciate the pics of the old schools firearms (& the link rth put on here). It amazes me the engineering marvels that they came up with
VV-L-800 you don’t get the same images in your head from WD-40.
Say what you want about Jimmie Carter’s “administration” being horrible, and there is in fact much to be said, when there was a movement to expel General Loan from the country, President Carter stepped in and stopped it. It’s also worth noting that the one family member the VC officer failed to murder became an American citizen, graduated from the Naval Academy and retired as an admiral.
Re image 2 “Belgian rimfire revolver”, with that cutout on the top rear of each chamber and that hammer style, I suggest that it’s actually a pinfire revolver.
Maybe the scope on the shotgun is for hunting beaver?
Looks like it works, too.
For accuracy when shooting slugs, maybe? It’s what *I’d* use it for…
Center fire rifles are banned in my Wildlife Management Unit when hunting deer. My Mossberg has a rifled slug barrel with a cantilever picatinny rail. You can mount a scope but I have a red dot. If I do my job, cloverleafs at 100yds are possible.
https://www.mossberg.com/500-12-gauge-slugster-barrel-with-cantilever-mount-24-matte-6-shot-92256.html
#10 Funny thing, Colonel Klink, Sergeant Schultz and Major Hochstetter were all played by Jewish actors.
growing up, my buddy uncle had one of those rocket guns. pre 1970 I think?
anyway, he was his crazy uncle Charlie. neat guy to us kids. he always had some new gun he was playing with up state. every now and then he would bring up he
real “toys” like a WW2 tommy gun to play with. never knew what happen to him or his collection of “toys”. all I found out was he died while I was away in the army.
I remember the rocket gun starting slow like and then picking up speed as it left the
barrel/tube ? he really did have some neat guns though.
I think he was single too. he had a good dog, I do remember that.
and ammo? he had tons of it as I remember.
Yep, scope on a shottie. As I understand it, for turkey. But also if you’re shooting slugs. There are jurisdictions in the US, IIRC, where only shotgun is legal for deer. Quite odd, I think. Short range and buckshot.
Back east there were areas with shotgun only. I used an 870, scoped ,rifled barrel and easily dropped deer at 100 yds with slugs.
While rifled bores or rifled chokes are a viable method of getting real accuracy with slugs from shotguns, I’ve seen an 870 with a factory iron-sight smoothbore tube that rivalled the average Mini-14 for centre-to-centre groups at 100 metres, using a variety of slugs too.
Remington, Winchester and Federal Foster-style slugs were interchangeable so far as point-of-aim, Brenneke a few inches higher, but the S & B S-Ball Plastik (a superb plastic-jacketed steel slug) would print a foot high with it’s higher velocity and lighter weight. There’s never not an exit wound with the S-Ball Plastik.
The most effective 12 gauge factory slug I’ve used was the Treffer, made in the then GDR. Unfortunately you could only use it for the first shot if using a tube magazine repeater, as the blunt cone-shaped nose of the slug protruded from the mouth of the roll-crimped hull a fair degree, presumably intended for break-action shotguns. The slug had a plastic wad crimped to it’s base, giving a shuttlecock effect, quite accurate and would push a full-grown boar to the ground on impact, from which it would never move.
When checking the point of impact from my Winchester, I noted that a firm forward grip was useful, otherwise the Treffer would unlock the bolt, cycling the action to the rear and ejecting the empty case several feet away! I wonder if they’re still in business? A revised projectile shape for tube magazines (or using a sharp chisel to remove the cone point) would enable as many boars on the ground as the capacity of the magazine, after all it’s about culling as many feral pests as humanely possible.
I this what you’re talking about?
https://ammoterra.com/product/treffer-sk-12-28g
Made in Latvia.
Yes, but with a revised nose shape, it should be fine for tube magazines. They used to flatten wild boars, even quicker then other slugs.
First I did not notice the scope the first time around, In the Seventies 75-78 I used to have to take two of those cans of oil; to the field for the APC I drove 30 weight for the engine and 10 weight for the transmission. I agree with sending the military to the border. We need to put Use eminent domain on the border. Take the land and turn the whole rural border area into a military LIVEFIRE RANGE. In Vietnam they had a course called Recondo and to graduate the course the students had to plan and execute an actual mi8ssion. We should use the graduates of ALL the branches special forces graduate students the same way. Target the cartels, drug runners who cross the border with drugs. ALL trucks who enter the US from out side the country should be searched for drugs chemicals to make drugs (fentanyl) Destroy what we can find. confiscate the ships or trucks that are transporting the drug. Put all the available troops on the border. Those people who cross illegally should be classified as enemy combatants and shipped to the Aleutian for holding with minimal facilities food and we would not even need to guard it we can let the bears be the guards. Long rant .
wow. I have not hear or read anything about Recondo since the 101st. back at FT. Campbell the PNCO school was called Recondo
and they even gave you a patch afterwards. early to mid 1970’s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW6aMh_B3DA
We will never know how much skill and knowledge has been lost to the sands of time.
To be able to do that kind of work! Thanks for that.
If you were attacked, you wouldn’t want to pick up the wrong pistol or, if you were at a party, picking up the wrong pistol might be embarrassing too!
Nice set boys.
Jacob McCandles carried two double barreled greeners
i REALLY appreciate the pics of the old schools firearms (& the link rth put on here). It amazes me the engineering marvels that they came up with
VV-L-800 you don’t get the same images in your head from WD-40.
Say what you want about Jimmie Carter’s “administration” being horrible, and there is in fact much to be said, when there was a movement to expel General Loan from the country, President Carter stepped in and stopped it. It’s also worth noting that the one family member the VC officer failed to murder became an American citizen, graduated from the Naval Academy and retired as an admiral.
Re image 2 “Belgian rimfire revolver”, with that cutout on the top rear of each chamber and that hammer style, I suggest that it’s actually a pinfire revolver.